"People Don't Want to Work Anymore" Duh?

(blog.absurdpirate.com)

34 points | by speckx 2 hours ago

12 comments

  • zephyrthenoble 57 minutes ago
    Kind of unrelated but sorry that you are currently unmedicated. I have found that it's nice to take a break of like one day from my medication but, in line with the point of the article, I find life too difficult to handle unmedicated for more than a day at a time.
  • i_love_retros 23 minutes ago
    More self betterment less work
  • dyauspitr 1 hour ago
    I’m going to take it a step ahead and say no one has ever wanted to work the kind of hours most people work. Left to their own devices people might work 15 hours a week but very few would voluntarily work 40-60 hours per week. It’s always been about it being a necessity for survival.
    • f1yght 1 hour ago
      He talks about that in the article, but people did less work than they do now when all they did was survival. We are working more than people who were at subsistence levels.
      • Arnt 7 minutes ago
        I think the "work" he talks about was unpaid and enforced. Stuff armed people forced you to do, that took up time you needed for your subsistence farming.
      • SpicyLemonZest 10 minutes ago
        I don't think that's true. There are some subsistence societies, blessed with abundant resources and neighbors with no interest in taking them, where people worked less. In many societies people worked more. (And of course, in all premodern societies, it was common to have famines where many of your neighbors would starve to death because they couldn't get enough food no matter how much they worked.)
      • bluefirebrand 1 hour ago
        The type of work people used to do was a lot more varied too. Even specialists would have to do more work than just their speciality

        As people have specialized more and more we spend more time on a much more narrowly defined set of tasks

        And we spend a lot more time per week doing just those tasks

  • Varelion 1 hour ago
    Wealth inequality will destroy America. Tax wealth. Tax wealth violently.
    • dyauspitr 4 minutes ago
      I’m a little more nuanced on this. I personally think paradigm shifting changes come from having insane capital and being able to fund those large scale changes (and it’s not just the US. That’s literally how east Asia developed their economy. The analog for very rich people was the state in China and India is basically currently following the same model as the other Asian countries). Only billionaires or very large corporations have that sort of capital. All of that to say we definitely need very rich people in society but at the same time you cannot have one person literally have more wealth than 50% of the country that is insane.
    • elevation 40 minutes ago
      Confiscate all billionaire liquidity and distribute it as a dividend today and you get a one-time $$$ payment for every citizen. Liquidate all their assets and you get another $$$ payment, but you've dismantled businesses which have massively raise the standard of living accross the country (next day delivery of goods, ubiquitous home internet) and ended many jobs. You've also dis-incentivized a lot of people future ambitions.
      • Clent 10 minutes ago
        > dis-incentivized a lot of people future ambitions.

        Let's assume this is true. It must be compared to how many people's ambitions will have been awoken.

      • addaon 15 minutes ago
        > Liquidate all their assets and you get another $$$ payment, but you've dismantled businesses

        How does this follow? Liquidating assets means selling them to a buyer... who can continue to operate the business.

      • jmcqk6 35 minutes ago
        Why are you assuming those are the only available options?
        • nick_ 19 minutes ago
          The ol' straw man with a side of false choice.
    • dominotw 1 hour ago
      each technological advance increases wealth inequality. Problem is not wealth inequality its things getting worse for ppl low on totem pole vs getting better. I am sure ppl wouldnt mind inequlity if things were getting cheaper, healthcare being more accesible ect. Thats what AI promised but never delivered. Nothing has gotten cheaper like predicted.
      • f1yght 1 hour ago
        People don’t mind mild inequality. Some people have more, that’s fine. When it’s extreme it’s a problem. 100% we need to make sure everyone is taken care of before we worry about if someone can have even more money than they will ever need.
      • malicka 1 hour ago
        No, it’s definitely the insane amounts of inequality we have today. The inequality is why there is less money flowing through the economy, why folks with incredible amounts of wealth can buy media outlets and attempt to buy elections to further their interests to hinder attempts to make things cheaper for average people. The inequality gives them their power, it’s the whole point.
        • mrtesthah 38 minutes ago
          Absolutely. Lack of effective enforcement of anti-trust and consumer protection laws are major factors in rising costs of everyday people. Corporations and oligarchs get to do whatever they want and suffer no consequences for it, because Citizens United gives power to those with the most wealth.

          There’s a reason why half the country would vote for a democratic socialist now.

          https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6178694-voters-support...

      • draygonia 1 hour ago
        Maybe raising the minimum wage was never a good idea and we should instead consider a wage cap that taxes heavily those that make above some insane figure everyone should be happy with... $10m a year? That seems generous enough for now until someone turns the money printer back on.
        • gunalx 4 minutes ago
          You could make it a function of a median income of some sorts.
  • nxm 44 minutes ago
    People don’t want to work anymore, but they keep expecting more from their already debt loaded governments - the free ride has to end at some point.
    • bigbadfeline 14 minutes ago
      "Free ride" is what big biz and especially big AI are getting, the government reduces their taxes, pays for the bailouts and gets saddled with the debt which is then passed to... those who elect it.
    • LoFiSamurai 40 minutes ago
      You actually believe that most people are getting a “free ride”? You’re reducing this to simple laziness?
      • SpicyLemonZest 20 minutes ago
        I don't think that very many people are getting a free ride. I'm sure it happens but it's not common.

        I do think there are a lot of people, like the OP, who think people should be. They view the structure of modern society and the lack of free rides as something that "boomer, petite-bourgeoise types" have imposed on us, rather than a reflection of underlying realities.

    • i_love_retros 24 minutes ago
      Actually they just expect people with over a billion dollars to pay a lot more tax. And seeing as those people built so much wealth by raping society and exploiting people and through corruption I'd say it's the least that should happen to them.
    • OKRainbowKid 14 minutes ago
      I agree – the freeloaders being the billionaire class.
    • greenhat76 10 minutes ago
      The debt the US has is not due to hand outs, but whatever you say.
  • skullone 1 hour ago
    A bit "edgelord" and really not sure, but I sense schizophrenia too.
  • ashwin42 2 hours ago
    Gotta love this one.
  • h8top245 1 hour ago
    truth nuke
  • gherkinnn 37 minutes ago
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  • Havoc 1 hour ago
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  • dh2022 1 hour ago
    OMG the swearing on this article. Whatever message the author wanted to convey is lost on me - I could not go beyond the first paragraph.
    • yladiz 1 hour ago
      I have a similar disdain to high levels of unnecessary cursing in something written, like the trend of "The Fucking Weather" style things, but I think this wasn't particularly noticeable. I would stick with it to the end.
    • OKRainbowKid 1 hour ago
      Your loss!

      I found it refreshing compared to polished corpo speak, and I think it aligns with the message the author wants to convey.

      • dh2022 1 hour ago
        The language used in that article segmented the audience very effectively :)
      • imimayj1337 1 hour ago
        I also found it refreshing - particularly given the semi lobotomised LLM slop we're seeing most articles written in nowadays. It's nice to see someone's actual tone coming through even if it is peppered with profanity!