Chain of Thought for Humans

(boristhebrave.com)

40 points | by ibobev 2 days ago

8 comments

  • mceachen 4 minutes ago
    In almost every interview I gave at the last several companies I worked for, I'd start with "This may feel a bit odd, but with this coding problem, I'd appreciate if you spoke through your problem solving. If it helps, pretend like I am your intern. Good ideas, bad ideas, pros and cons of whatever you're considering, it's all valuable information for me to learn a bit about how you approach problems."

    I feel like being explicit like this put candidates at a bit more ease than having them try to suss out what the interviewer is expecting from them implicitly (and I know there are many interviewers that will auto-veto any candidate with the audacity to suggest a possibly imperfect approach).

  • florkbork 21 minutes ago
    • totetsu 16 minutes ago
      After one to many miss-rides, I now do this often even when just riding the train.
  • Waterluvian 2 hours ago
    Witnessing a candidate’s thought process is probably the most valuable part of the interview process for me. Nothing else comes close. Just let me listen/watch you solve problems.
    • purplepatrick 1 hour ago
      As someone with zero exposure to my own thought processes, I find this always so discriminatory! ;)
    • drivebyhooting 1 hour ago
      Verbalizing my thoughts as I try to solve a problem drops my IQ down by like 20 points at least.
      • 4m1rk 59 minutes ago
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  • algoth1 2 hours ago
    I wonder if the author is one of those people that doesn't have an audible inner monologue?
    • thanhhaimai 1 hour ago
      I'm not the OP, but I think everyone might have a different definition of what "audible inner monologue" mean.

      For example, I don't talk to myself in "monologue". But I can close my eyes or stare at the screen and visualize the solutions. The words that I usually tell myself during that are "what?", "why?", "strange!", "really",... not a monologue or sentences.

      • pulvinar 51 minutes ago
        That's my impression too, that my thoughts are a hybrid, where I'll think in a rapid sequence of whole concepts and visual flashes, and then summarize that in my inner voice "for the record", as a jumping-off point for the next batch of thoughts. But I don't have much control over this, as my inner voice is hard to shut up for any length of time, always giving a running narrative.
      • FuckButtons 41 minutes ago
        Yeah I’m the exact opposite, thought is almost entirely auditory.
      • UltraSane 23 minutes ago
        I'm essentially thinking out loud in my head constantly.
    • purplepatrick 1 hour ago
      The author says they could narrate their own thought process out loud.

      I couldn’t do that. I have no insight into my thought processes whatsoever. There are no semantic (or any other) processes to witness. It’s complete crickets at all times…

      My wife is the opposite - constant chatter in her head. And she can trace every thought exactly. (No idea how people like her can focus or even function!)

      • cnees 1 hour ago
        We focus/function via the inner monologue. It doesn't just do its own thing while we're trying to focus or get something done, it walks through the issue and comes up with solutions and then criticizes them and iterates, and as far as we're concerned, that's us solving the problem.
    • idiotsecant 1 hour ago
      I am such a person and I've always done 'chain of thought' in a notepad in order to think through complex things, well before LLMs were a thing. There are certainly tasks I can 'one-shot' but I've learned from experience that for some problems that just results in me focusing on irrelevant things.
      • apt-apt-apt-apt 1 hour ago
        Curious whether the lack of audible inner monologue is a benefit for you?

        I feel like I'm the opposite, where most of my thinking is done in inner English, which feels slow. I.e. as opposed to instantly realizing the result of deep subconscious processing or something, I usually go the slow language way, if you get what I mean.

  • clivedup 26 minutes ago
    > eh, "Chain of Thought for Humans" sounds stupid

    > but maybe it has some nuance?

    > eh, I think I still don't care enough to click

    > but maybe I could post a funny comment

    > it doesn't sound that funny, and besides, HN doesn't usually like these sorts of comments

    > okay, let's just read the next story

    > unless

  • 1auralynn 2 hours ago
    We use this in my science education platform: we make students talk out loud about what they're thinking. Not a chatbot, but guided inquiry that's designed to make them actually mentally engage with what they're seeing
  • whattheheckheck 23 minutes ago
    Just make a theoretical minimum type test like the landau physicist
  • senectus1 1 hour ago
    holy shit this would break my ability to think completely.

    I think and chase alternate chains of thought way faster than i can speak.