Tether: iMessage, SMS, etc. on Linux

(zackbartel.com)

114 points | by zackb 5 days ago

11 comments

  • pzmarzly 2 hours ago
    > Personally, I think putting an interoperability protocol implementation behind a copyleft license is a little unfortunate!

    Huh, haven't thought of it. Just relicensed ancs4linux to MIT.

    • voakbasda 1 hour ago
      I love HN. Read an article that raises a reasonable point about a project’s license, and that project’s author shows up to announce they were convinced and changed the license accordingly. Repo was updated 5 minutes ago.

      It’s things like this that give me hope for the world.

      • stackghost 1 hour ago
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        • kian 51 minutes ago
          So I'm guessing you don't do anything except what matters to billions of people? Always 100% fully generalized contributions, never making your local world a better place? Your only local contributions being to tell off people who are grateful that their lives are materially improved by someone else's smaller actions... You must be beloved by your community.
        • kaonwarb 58 minutes ago
          Making one small corner of the world a little bit better is a good thing. There's not much use in complaining that it's not as big of an impact as could hypothetically be achieved on some larger issues.
          • stackghost 53 minutes ago
            It's things like this that rob my of my hope for the world.
        • literallyroy 36 minutes ago
          I saw someone smile at the park the other day, do you think you could talk to them for me?
        • yard2010 32 minutes ago
          Not GP but I feel like that's kinda their point - the fact that we still have this platform to collaborate in such an organic way is truly remarkable and must not be taken for granted.
        • rewgs 57 minutes ago
          You are indeed being a Debbie Downer.
    • kees99 2 hours ago
      Isn't this[0] the use-case that is supposedly covered by LGPL?

      [0] copyleft-licensed library that could be legally linked into non-copyleft code base.

  • lxe 2 minutes ago
    Oh, fantastic, thank you. If this allows me to drop files onto an iPhone without me having to open an app, that would solve a lot of my issues. I use localsend right now and although I really love it, it still requires me to always keep the app open on the phone.
  • voakbasda 2 hours ago
    Mega-kudos to the author for chipping away at the wall around Apple’s garden.

    I have had a iPhone for 15 years, and I have only ever been able to back it up with iTunes on windows (as I will never buy a Mac).

    Apple’s refusal to provide interoperability borders on criminal. I wish there was a better option.

    • abcd_f 1 hour ago
      Have a look at https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice and iOS backup projects that are based on it.
    • timcobb 58 minutes ago
      Pixel is nice, in my opinion better than iOS, and more open for now
    • sneak 1 hour ago
      You could stop using iMessage and iCloud.
      • Rohansi 38 minutes ago
        Green bubbles, WhatsApp, Signal, etc. are not an option for a lot of people. I don't get it either.
        • agoodusername63 34 minutes ago
          Because techies on average aren't socially popular enough to get anybody to make any effort to msg them on a better platform.
          • nvme0n1p1 8 minutes ago
            Speak for yourself
            • agoodusername63 4 minutes ago
              Ok! I don't use iMessage because people I want to talk to are happy to install a new app to do so. :)
      • k4rli 31 minutes ago
        Or leave the walled garden entirely. GrapheneOS has all the same stuff.
    • LinuxIsntVeryGo 1 hour ago
      Why do you think Apple should be compelled to provide software for operating systems without a sizable audience? Why do you feel entitled to support for Linux?
      • voakbasda 1 hour ago
        Because they provide a platform. Platforms are not normal products. Once a product becomes a platform, the rules should change to force interoperability. This should be true no matter the product or technology.
      • SadTrombone 1 hour ago
        Nobody's asking Apple to provide anything. We just want them to stop sending cease and desists to developers who do provide said thing.
      • cassianoleal 1 hour ago
        They don't have to add support. All they need is APIs and documentation.
  • jonathanwallace 52 minutes ago
    This is incredibly timely as I moved my first choice personal computer to full time linux this week (and am a long time iPhone user who loves the autofill as well). I'll be happily contributing when I find an itch that needs to be scratched.
  • teo_zero 32 minutes ago
    This is for iPhones only. Do I assume correctly that the issue is solved for Android, instead?
    • phrotoma 19 minutes ago
      Also curious. I keep messages.google.com in a pinned tab but the number of times I have to go find my phone and re-authenticate is too damned high.
      • bigyabai 9 minutes ago
        On Android, you can use KDE Connect on KDE and GSConnect on GNOME. It has a Messaging app that syncs with your phone's SMS.
  • desireco42 7 minutes ago
    I have Google Fi, we always had messages.google.com to even get calls, which I never did. Convenient especially because I write longer messages.

    Never felt superiour over others for it.

  • kvemkon 59 minutes ago
    Is there an easy way to share iOS clipboard to Linux directly using local WiFi without going through any cloud?

    Edit: clarification in my reply later in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49492003

    • cpuguy83 29 minutes ago
      "Easy" is subjective, but tether seems like it would do this? There is also kdeconnect (don't let the "KDE" fool you).
      • kvemkon 15 minutes ago
        That's what I thought at first but then discovered:

        > universal clipboard is synchronized over internet, it is not done trough cable connection. it uses apple continuity service, what you put into UC is uploaded into apple cloud,..

        https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice/issues/...

        That's why I'm a bit confused now.

        > don't let the "KDE" fool you

        Being GNOME2-then-MATE user, it really would.

    • bestnameever 22 minutes ago
      You can use the app that is the subject of this thread:

      https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tether-linux-companion/id67620...

    • cassianoleal 25 minutes ago
      Literally OP does this. It doesn't share it automatically like iOS-to-macOS integration but you open the app, click a button - job done.
  • SoftTalker 1 hour ago
    Wasn't there another iMessage clone for Linux/Android a few years back and they got a C&D from Apple? Or maybe Apple just blocked their service?
    • jnovek 1 hour ago
      There’s bluebubbles which runs a server on a Mac and syncs your messages that way.
    • aaronax 1 hour ago
      Beeper?
  • porridgeraisin 1 hour ago
    I use whatsapp primarily, so no tethering needed, but SMS of course for one-time passwords and the like. I didn't want to open my phone for that. So I had a coding agent write an android background app for me that listens for SMS and forwards it to a discord server, and side loaded it. So now I get a discord notif on my laptop with the OTP.
    • internet_points 2 minutes ago
      there is also kde connect (or valent for the gnome UI)
  • select1 1 hour ago
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  • 2Gkashmiri 2 hours ago
    I don't know.

    What's a feature not in KDE connect that the writer wanted and it didn't have?

    They could always submit a pr.

    Beeper exists you know....

    I have a question. It's fine to build for your own self but is it okay to release something in public when the environment is a moving target and you are just a one-man team keeping it afloat?

    Wouldn't it be better to go behind established FOSS products and not reinvent the wheel when you don't have to?

    I understand no one can tell you how to or why to do certain things but there comes a time, when youw want to help, not build the next temple os and instead help manjaro or whatever is cool these days?

    • cassianoleal 1 hour ago
      I find KDE Connect severely lacking. It's great that it exists, and maybe it's really excellent with Android, but for iOS it's really not there yet.

      Even features that do exist don't always work reliably. I can't send files between devices, most of the time clipboard sharing doesn't work either, and there's loads not implemented.

      > What's a feature not in KDE connect that the writer wanted and it didn't have?

      From TFA:

      "And Tether now supports: iMessage, SMS, Notifications, Contact sync on Linux. In addition to its previous: File Transfer, Clipboard Sync, OTP handling."

      > Wouldn't it be better to go behind established FOSS products and not reinvent the wheel when you don't have to?

      From TFA:

      "Before you ask, I know KDE Connect exists. It's great! If you're on Android you should definitely use it. The problem is that it didn't do what I wanted and it's roadmap indicated it never would."

      Maybe next time read the article before commenting?

      • foresto 5 minutes ago
        Let's be fair: At least some of the features you quoted do work in KDE connect in my experience, so I had the same question as GP. Even after reading the article.
    • Gualdrapo 1 hour ago
      One of the not cool things about KDE Connect is that its "plugins" system doesn't seem like it.

      Where are more plugins for it? How you add them? Where are docs for creating them?

      I haven't had a great feeling when asking its dev about stuff but hope that situation has changed. Having a proper plugin system would let people like OP extend KDEConnect and potentially benefit more people, instead of being subjected to the will of its devs and the roadmap.

    • alex7o 1 hour ago
      I would argue that if you have the same setup as the author then use it. Yes a moving target but won't you fix something you use for yourself? Also point an agent at it get it back working in a few hours of waiting :P
    • utopiah 2 hours ago
      Glad you brought that up, I was actually going to suggest not to replace KDE Connect but rather to become interoperable with it because AFAIR (but didn't touch an iPhone for few years now) there is no iOS client for it.
      • cpuguy83 28 minutes ago
        kdeconnect has an iOS client.
    • tamimio 1 hour ago
      Personally, few years ago I wanted to use kde connect with my iPhone, and I don’t remember the distro now but it’s when I had to install kde connect later it wasn’t part of it, and after almost a whole day of googling around and trying to compile and solve whatever missing libraries or drivers, it never connected.. so yeah I welcome the fact that there are alternatives, always!