Solid Queue 1.6.0 now supports fiber workers

(github.com)

23 points | by earcar 4 hours ago

3 comments

  • swe_dima 44 minutes ago
    My concern is number of database connections. In the example it's 100 fibers per worker, at that rate you are going to exhaust db connections sooner. Happy to be wrong.
    • resonious 15 minutes ago
      I think you want to make sure you don't hold a database connection while waiting on other slow async work (like outgoing HTTP requests). Then you can more feasibly have more workers than pool size. It's just very tricky to do this in Rails...
    • looperhacks 23 minutes ago
      I don't know Solid Queue or the rails environment, but I expect that not every worker will create it's own connection, there should be a connection pool in-between
  • ramon156 1 hour ago
    So fibers are a lot like threads but they're more scoped to a task that can be paused and resumed, that's kinda cool
    • vdombr 1 minute ago
      It’s more like goroutines or other lightweight concurrency mechanisms. If threads are OS-level concurrency primitives, fibers are scheduled within Ruby itself, which makes them much more efficient than threads.

      In fact, I got the following results in HTTP benchmark tests:

      Go:

      * Latency under stable load: p95 0.25–5.32 ms, p99 2.20–9.92 ms * Memory: 23–31 MB RSS across HTTP scenarios

      Ruby:

      * Latency under stable load: p95 1.03–6.45 ms, p99 2.32–8.30 ms * Memory: 84–295 MB RSS, depending on the scenario

      Fibers can also handle WebSockets better because WebSocket workloads involve more I/O waiting.

      A typical Falcon setup uses N workers, one thread per worker, and many fibers. Since the fibers are cooperatively scheduled within a single thread, this avoids much of the context-switching overhead associated with OS threads. Multiple workers can still run in parallel across CPU cores.

    • adrian_b 47 minutes ago
      Some programmers find it easier to write concurrent programs that use "light-weight threads", "fibers", "goroutines", "coroutines" or other variants of this idea.

      This feature is obviously intended for them and it might enhance their productivity.

      Nonetheless, no program that uses a great number of any variant of the "light-weight threads" can ever be as efficient as a thread pool that is dimensioned to have the same number of threads as the number of hardware threads of a SMT CPU, or a slightly greater number of threads than the number of hardware threads of a non-SMT CPU.

      For maximum performance, the use of a correctly-sized thread pool remains the best solution, but writing an efficient program that uses it can be significantly more difficult, because good methods of communication and synchronization must be implemented, while the run-time library of a language with "light-weight threads"/"fibers"/etc. already takes care of such problems so the programmer does not need to think about them.

  • Lio 2 hours ago
    This is a nice update.

    Is it possible to either have multiple ractors dispatching jobs with fibres or to set up multiple queues with different strategies?

    E.g. one for IO bound and one for CPU bound?

    With Sidekiq I’ve had luck having workers running on Truffleruby but generally don’t use it for my main rails apps.