Cirrus Labs to join OpenAI

(cirruslabs.org)

141 points | by seekdeep 4 hours ago

28 comments

  • maxloh 2 hours ago
    Note that this is fundamentally different from the Astral acquisition. At the end of their announcement, they stated:

    > Cirrus CI will shut down effective Monday, June 1, 2026.

    And earlier in the article:

    > Joining OpenAI allows us to extend the mission we started with Cirrus Labs: building new kinds of tooling and environments that make engineers more effective, for both human engineers and agentic engineers.

    It isn't a product-led acquisition, but more a talent one.

    • fkorotkov 2 hours ago
      Just want to note that we will continue maintaining and improving our virtualization solutions actually with even greater attention. SaaS options like Cirrus CI and Cirrus Runners will eventually wind down so we can focus on incorporating pieces internally.
      • CompoundEyes 1 hour ago
        If your scope includes making the Codex web app environments have additional functionality I look forward to it. More enterprise features and yaml backed pipelines.
    • hirako2000 2 hours ago
      It could also be a suite of product acquisition, the CI could be a product OpenAI is interested in having, but not sell.
      • trollbridge 2 hours ago
        Yeah. Much like Astral - acquiring both the product (because they need to use it internally, but don't care about trying to resell / market), and they also want the talent to keep maintaining it / add features they want.
    • koolhead17 1 hour ago
      Is Sam or family an investor in them anyways?
      • fkorotkov 1 hour ago
        We were 100% bootstrapped with no outside capital or support/advisory.
  • seekdeep 2 hours ago
  • jwpapi 18 minutes ago
    So AI company buys devs again, but devs are dead
  • prodigycorp 8 minutes ago
    I don't think people have been keeping track but OpenAI has been hiring a murderer's row of developers for their Codex team.
  • yoyohello13 50 minutes ago
    Incredible how many people are perfectly fine working for a company making AI powered murder bots.
    • taurath 27 minutes ago
      This is a VC site. Morality or changing the world for the better is window dressing on earning as much money as possible and damn anyone who gets in the way. Morality is only good in as much as it’s good for business to be seen as moral. Money people have been majority running things for over 2 decades at least but the mythos lives on.
  • bombcar 3 hours ago
    I liked “our incredible journey” more when it wasn’t rushing headlong into OpenMawAI
    • jeltz 1 hour ago
      Every great journey must have an end. As far as I understand Cirrus CI was struggling due to Github Actions eating their market. Cirrus CI was in my opinion much better than Github Actions but it is hard to compete with a bundled solution.
      • esafak 38 minutes ago
        What was good about it? It looks pretty ordinary to me: https://cirrus-ci.org/features/
        • jeltz 2 minutes ago
          Much better UX for viewing logs, more supported platforms. Github Actions in particular is also very unstable.
  • MaxLeiter 2 hours ago
    FTA:

    > In 2022, we built Tart, which became the most popular virtualization solution for Apple Silicon, along with several other tools along the way.

    from Tart's github:

    > [Tart is for] macOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon to use in CI and other automations

    My (naive?) hypothesis is this kind of expertise is why OpenAI chose to acquihire.

    • threecheese 2 hours ago
      Same; the reason everyone ran out to buy Mac Minis last month is it gave their Claw access to iMessage, their browser cookies, and a residential IP. Cirrus provides a way to provision and orchestrate MacOS VMs, which is exactly what I did for running Openclaw (for a minute …).
    • jen20 14 minutes ago
      Not to sell Tart short (it is quite good), but it's "just" a wrapper around Virtualization.framework with a few extra pieces. This is the kind of thing that Codex driven by experts _should_ be able to build very easily.
  • Duplicake 12 minutes ago
    Why are they acquiring seemingly random things, they acquired Astral and now this
  • faangguyindia 2 hours ago
    I've moved most companies away from using others stuff

    Today we use Hertzner and OVH and roll out our own solution whenever possible.

    Running lean and mean.

    Depending on such third party services is a trap.

    • Aurornis 29 minutes ago
      Been there, done that, and I still find value in 3rd party services despite the occasional need to migrate.

      Self hosting is the way to go if you need to keep monthly services spend as low as possible but you have extra time to spend, such as with a hobby project.

      Whenever I’ve worked on real startup projects, self-hosting became a constant source of little tasks for the engineering team to mix into our weekly workload. There were always little tasks to upgrade this service, investigate why that one server was slow, or to migrate something to a bigger server because we were bottlenecked on some resource. Then we had to manage backups and do our recovery drills, along with changing the backup strategy every 6 months because someone had a better idea.

      When we started to add up all of the time spent managing everything it starts to look like spending dollars (of engineer time) to save pennies on SaaS bills.

      Probably not a popular thing to say on HN, but I now try to stay away from teams that go to extremes to self-host everything because I just want to get my work done, not also be constantly involved in running the underlying services. I do it for my own hobby projects at home but I don’t want to be doing it at work where we have money to spend to lighten the load. If the cost is the occasional migration to a different 3rd party service that’s not a big workload relative to everything involved in self-hosting.

    • causal 31 minutes ago
      That is something of a broken promise in the SaaS world; it was supposed to be convenience but instead it became a hundred broken integration points as you struggle to keep up with deprecated APIs and acqui-hires killing off shims you wouldn't have needed if everything had been on-prem to begin with.
    • jeltz 1 hour ago
      What software do you use to run your CI?
      • rglullis 16 minutes ago
        Not OP, but to me the answer is:

          - gitea
          - woodpecker CI
          - my own docker registry
          - portainer running on my docker swarm
        
        
        I then define the docker stack in the git repository, and CI builds the images and pushes to build the new image to the docker repository. The portainer API allows to deploy a stack, with the image tag as a parameter.
    • surgical_fire 53 minutes ago
      This is the way.
  • bartekpacia 1 hour ago
    Wow, this is surprising.

    I’m happy for the founders, they’re great folks. I contributed to CirrusCI a bit in the past and it was a great experience. I even advocated for Cirrus in a couple of my last $DAYJOBs (with varied success). Congrats Fedor!

    I’m very sad they’re shutting down, though. IMHO CirrusCI was very close to a perfect CI system (I wrote a blogpost about it [0]). I’ll now have to find something to replace it with in my personal projects. I guess I’ll run their cirrus-cli in GitHub Actions for a while. But GitHub Actions is really poor. I heard some good things about Buildkite.

    [0]: https://garden.pacia.tech/cirrus_ci_is_the_best.html

  • emptysongglass 3 hours ago
    Wow Cirrus was like the one cool CI thing with first-class Podman support. RIP. Guess I'm looking elsewhere (and not at Dagger which refuses to support rootless Podman).
    • fkorotkov 2 hours ago
      Thank you! Cirrus CLI is still around and can run your tasks locally in either Podman or Docker. Can also be used in any other CI.
  • trollbridge 2 hours ago
    The level of aqui-hires is getting interesting - at this point, it appears that if one wants one's career to progress, you need to start some kind of tiny startup like Astral or Bun and hope to be notable enough you can get acquired by someone like OpenAI or Anthropic.

    It certainly makes the idea of a career progression / promotion more challenging than it used to be, but perhaps it also opens up some new opportunities. It becomes far more "high stakes" since you have to take the risk of starting and running a startup that ultimately fails if it does not get acqui-hired.

    • mcmcmc 1 hour ago
      It also kills competition and disincentivizes providing long term value. I’m not sure how making the job market more like gambling does anything positive for the majority of people
    • michaelcampbell 36 minutes ago
      > at this point, it appears that if one wants one's career to progress, you need to start some kind of tiny startup like Astral or Bun and hope to be notable enough you can get acquired by someone like OpenAI or Anthropic

      This has been popular for 25+ years. Likely before, but that's when I first started noticing a significant number of companies that were clearly in business solely TO BE BOUGHT.

    • elcritch 2 hours ago
      It’s been true for a while, but AI seems to have exaggerated it. To me it reinforces the idea that LLMs created a “K” shaped talent market. Those whose are good become even more valuable.
  • spooneybarger 1 hour ago
    Cirrus gave a ton of support for years to open source projects. I congratulate them on cashing out. Running a business like Cirrus did is always a hard road and I will never fault folks who gave time and resources on their platform away for taking the money.

    I wish Fedor and everyone at Cirrus the best of luck and OpenAI and thank them immensely for the years of free CI they gave to us in the Pony programming language despite it not having any marketing value to them.

  • pxc 19 minutes ago
    Tart is really cool, impressive, and useful. Best of luck to the team!
  • seekdeep 3 hours ago
    A pity. Cirrus has been providing quite decent CI facilities, for free. One of the advantages (among many) compared to GitHub Actions is the large variety of runner images, e.g., Debian, Fedora, Alpine, FreeBSD, ...
  • Philip-J-Fry 18 minutes ago
    We have AI companies constantly fear-mongering that their next model is somehow too dangerous to release. But they just continue to go on an acquisition spree.

    This just confirms to me that we are no where near AI being able to write any complicated software. I mean, if it could woudln't OpenAI just prompt it into existence? ;)

  • vomayank 1 hour ago
    Interesting move. Cirrus Labs has been doing solid work in mobile CI/CD infrastructure — curious to see how their expertise gets integrated into OpenAI’s tooling and developer ecosystem.
    • mrweasel 5 minutes ago
      It's hard not to imaging that OpenAI is attempting to build an developer tools eco-system. It makes sense as it's one of the few fields in AI that are currently able to generate sales.
  • dennisy 1 hour ago
    Congratulations!

    Can you talk a bit more about your journey without raising funds?

    Also what does HN think of that path today when trying to launch a new AI startup?

    • fkorotkov 1 hour ago
      Thank you! Full journey is too long for a comment here.

      It was hard and I was lucky with my previous pre-IPO gigs at Airbnb and Twitter so I had some bootstrap fund. In retrospective a dev tools startup in 2017 with no network and no VC support was a crazy idea but I was young and didn’t think thought too much.

      Then it was long 8 years of raw work and constant questioning this choice. Then finally a third component: luck. In 2024-2025 it kind of grew organically due to market changes and back in October 2025 I finally stopped questioning the future of Cirrus Labs.

      My only advice if I may, try to get your first dollar from your startup while you are employed.

  • fidotron 3 hours ago
    Am I reading this right?: a CI company that shuts down CI services with such short notice?

    Do service providers not think customers have other things to do than simply maintain their existing infrastructure?

    • fkorotkov 2 hours ago
      Cirrus CI was on a downhill in terms of users and revenue for years now. Most of the customers moved to GHA already.

      Plus migration is super easy with Cirrus CLI -- tool to run our CI task definitions locally or in any CI. See https://github.com/cirruslabs/cirrus-cli

    • 999900000999 2 hours ago
      Realistically this is what you agree to when you want to use someone else's computer. They can just as easily ran out of money.
    • JCharante 2 hours ago
      but they're not

      > We are no longer accepting new customers for Cirrus Runners but will continue supporting the service for existing customers through their existing contract periods.

    • mcmcmc 2 hours ago
      I don’t think they care about their customers at all, from the statement they consider their business a “byproduct”.
    • 8cvor6j844qw_d6 2 hours ago
      Same thoughts. Guess the migration team responsible will have to kick up the gear.
  • fnord77 3 hours ago
    > I wanted to work on fun and challenging engineering problems, in the hope of bootstrapping a business as a byproduct.

    > We never raised outside capital

    I guess it worked out though

  • diimdeep 30 minutes ago
    Looks like infrastructure tech and talent grab for "Computer use" project

    https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/tools-computer...

    https://github.com/cirruslabs/mtell

  • dude250711 57 minutes ago
    AI companies need a surprising amount of people.

    It's kind of like electric cars charged with electricity from coal power plants.

  • loevborg 2 hours ago
    What was the USP of their CI service?
    • Maxious 2 hours ago
      Ability to virtualize on Apple devices and linux with GPUs https://github.com/scipy/scipy/issues/24990
    • jeltz 1 hour ago
      Better UX than their competitors and support for many different images.
    • rvnx 1 hour ago
      To create an ephemeral (docker-like) MacOS VM on a Mac with full performance and access (e.g. GPU) you have to use a virtualization API provided by Apple.

      For most CI use, you can choose between:

        Anka, a "contact-us for pricing" closed-source projet, where you have to pay expensive license (easy 3000 USD/yr per machine)
      
      or

        tart, which is a lightweight wrapper around the official Apple API.
      
      But you have to know that on MacOS, there is an artificial limit of 2 VMs per Mac... but well:

      https://github.com/cirruslabs/orchard/commit/3cfa2445500f45f...

      With https://khronokernel.com/macos/2023/08/08/AS-VM.html

      Some people might find it very attractive:

        Instead 25 Mac Mini you might need only 5.
        + No licensing to pay to Anka.
      
      
      Even without bypassing the limit it is great actually
  • 0dayman 2 hours ago
    yea yea yea, purchase every last company you find, no one wants OpenAI
  • dangus 2 hours ago
    I just love how companies like this gaslight the whole world with announcements like this.

    We started a company to make a big difference in the world and build an engineer’s dream company, and that’s why we have now decided to do the exact opposite and become employee numbers 32,463 through 32,510 at one of the largest tech companies in the world because money is nice.

    Look, I’d have done the same thing, I’m not criticizing the choice. I just think we don’t need this kind of weird unnatural rhetoric.

    Please just stop with the tech industry puffery. You’re not Steve Jobs, you’re just the DevOps team at OpenAI now. You’re dumping your worthless code on GitHub, and you’re kicking your customers to the curb.

    There’s no PR spin left to do anymore. You’re not a company anymore and you’re not a founder anymore.

    • trollbridge 2 hours ago
      Making a statement like this is generally part of the terms of the acquisition.
      • dangus 2 hours ago
        Sure, but I imagine the terms of the acquisition doesn’t say you have to write it in this specific style.

        I’m sure there’s a way to say the same thing without coming across as a bullshitter.

        • dbalatero 1 hour ago
          I just don't think there's much upside to telling it how it is in the press release that gets buried after a week and everyone moves on. For better or worse.
    • bartekpacia 2 hours ago
      More like employees number 32,463 and 32,464 - they’re two people from what I seen on GitHub over the years. (Incredibly strong two people)
  • panchtatvam 2 hours ago
    Another one bites the dust.
  • throwaway613746 6 minutes ago
    [dead]
  • awestroke 3 hours ago
    Wow. I have rarely seen a company website with so many buzzwords. Still not sure what they do, except "AI". Good riddance
    • jeltz 1 hour ago
      Cuirrus does not do AI, they do CI.
      • thayne 42 minutes ago
        There is a theme in a lot of products (and open source projects) of plastering AI all over the description, even if it isn't really related to AI. The first thing I see on the CirrusLabs website is "Accelerate AI Adoption Without Compromising Safety". How am I supposed to know this is a CI product, and even if I figure that out, how am I supposed to know it is a genral CI tool and not something AI specific?

        I don't understand why these sites just put a bunch of buzzwords instead of telling you what it actually is.

        • fkorotkov 28 minutes ago
          You are checking the wrong Cirrus Labs.